What was up with Floyd Landis today. Where did that burst come from!!
 
"If you brake, you don't win." Racer Mario Cipollini

Preparation + execution + anger = one fast cyclist.

He was lacking the last two yesterday.
 
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UH OH. Floyd was a bad boy.

[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/more/specials/tour_de_france/2006/07/27/landis.doping/index.html?cnn=yes[/url]
 
"If you brake, you don't win." Racer Mario Cipollini

Just dope'em all before the race. If there all doped, no one has an advantage. If you don't dope, thats your problem.
 
"If you brake, you don't win." Racer Mario Cipollini

Don't be so sure, either there must be a new drug that bonks you one day, and creates a hero the next, or something is really fishy. I find it hard to believe Floyd would knowingly take something (steroid/testosterone) when he knew right well he would be tested. I surely don't know if he has always been clean, but that ride was on guts not drugs. I would bet the B sample would produce the same result, a positive, then a doctor will prove he had the high ratio because of a hip drug or something of the like. Even if he is proved to be clean, the damage is done, and the French are loving it. We will have to sick a rejuvenated Levi on them next year.

I'm hoping for the best on this one, Landis is my hero for the way he road that race. Boys need their heros, don't let this one be true, I'd have to sell my brand new road bike! :cry: Just kidding, I'll be riding my bike long after my car dies and I have no $ to replace it with.

Drug analyst Gary Wadler says he is puzzled by the result of the test on Landis, who had never failed a drug test. One-time use of steroids could result in an abnormal test, but it would have no effect on performance and could not have accounted for Landis' feat in the 17th stage.

"Something's missing here," he says. "It just doesn't add up."
 
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I also want to mention a segment on NPR's Talk of the Nation today with Charles Pelkey, editor of Velonews.com. He referenced unnamed personal sources to give Landis's proported t:e test result as 11:1. He also said that the results showed normal levels of testosterone, but abnormally low levels of epitestosterone, which also yields an "unusual ratio."

Interesting if this comes out to be true.

What the hell was he drinking so much of on that stage? I remember him sucking down bottle after bottle.

He was more pouring bottle after bottle than drinking bottle after bottle. He was keeping his core temp down. He was pouring a bottle over his head about every couple minutes. His team car just kept handing him bottles and he just kept pouring them over his head.
 
"If you brake, you don't win." Racer Mario Cipollini

Ok, now I am really confused..............PJ listens to NPR?
 
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More bad news for Floyd Landis

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=2535787[/url]
 
"If you brake, you don't win." Racer Mario Cipollini

More Speculation & Unsubstantiated Evidence being driven by the French "Anti-American Winning the Tour" Machine, go figure.

There will be NON-FRENCH labs and courts involved before this case is settle, and until then, I'll reserve my judgement.

At this point we have to just hope thats all it is.
 
"If you brake, you don't win." Racer Mario Cipollini

The French are more anti-Lance than they are anti-America. Floyd's dramatic win was actually seen as a positive because it helped push Lance out of the spotlight. The French press treated Floyd's win in a very positive manner. The fact that Floyd was caught cheating (and it is looking more likely to be true each day), makes Lance look even more impressive since he never tested positive. The French people and the Tour officials are not happy about what is going on.
 
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Well they should be unhappy about it, the winner of the Tour, possibly a cheat, the whole drug doping and how public it is thing is starting to make a mockery of the Tour and that isn't what it's all about.

Crikes. IF Landis cheated, which I don't think he did, even still. What drug did he forget to take to mask the Testosterone:Epi ratio? This wasn't a one day drug, and it still doesn't makes sense as to why he would pick a steroid. There are some unanswered questions before I dump him down the tubes. Mercx may know something as he bet on him to win at 75:1

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[b:2054cc54e2]Manzano: ?Testosterone effects almost immediate'[/b:2054cc54e2]

Jes?s Manzano, the ex-pro who revealed insider details of doping in a series of paid interviews two years ago, said that testosterone can be taken during competition and its effects can be felt "almost immediately."

In an article with his byline in the Spanish daily AS, Manzano outlined the way riders can take testosterone during a competition, undercutting the argument that testosterone is a substance taken over weeks and months to slowly build strength and resistance.

Manzano's interviews helped draw attention to controversial Spanish doctor Eufemiano Fuentes, who is now at the center of an ongoing doping investigation in Spain.

"Its effects are felt almost immediately," Manzano wrote. "It gives you a lot of force and produces a sort of euphoria."

Manzano outlined three ways to take testosterone during a competition.

First are patches, called AndroGel, which are applied during a light massage usually during the evening mealtime. Manzano said the patches had to be used less than two hours to not risk going above the T/E ratio threshold and risking a positive doping test. Manzano also said clandestine suppositories are used as well as intravenous injections, called Rastandol, taking about 20 minutes to 1 hour before competition.

Another option are pills of Andriol, called "beans" in the cycling underworld - or "Ferrari's jellybeans" by some - but these usually take several days to kick in and he said it's not likely riders would use them during competition.
 
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Now its coming to light. He fell asleep with the patch on during the massage and woke up full of piss and vinegar.

I don't buy Testosterone has a one day effect on a rider for a 100 mile endurance race. He either forgot to mask it that day, or sweated out all the masking agents during his ride, or something is amiss. Floyd not coming out to fight the fact they found artificial testosterone makes me worry.

Either way, I will continue to Speculate without a clue.

He is not saying anything because he needs to know all of their evidence . He must not say anything that could possibility be contradicted with further testing. His defense needs to be complete and comprehensive of every possible bullshit scenario they run up the flag pole.

That sounds about right. There are legal ramifications involved.

Found this article today and thought it was an interesting take on the subject.

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/05/ap2929625.html