If we meet at the mountain parking lot there will be plenty of room for parking. If the weather is good who is up for a tailgater after the stage?

The smell of burgers or dogs on the grill will get Mr. PJ really pulling on the second half of the course and I could draft him all the way back saving my energy for the final sprint.

Not sure if the timing and darkness will be an issue but I thought I would bring it up for discussion.

Not a bad idea.........I am in. Could also be convinced to drive down the street and have someone cook and pour for us.

We will have plenty to talk about, ecspecially if I am able to pull till the final sprint.

Yes having someone else cook and pour after a hard effort would be a good thing. As long as the others in the pub don't mind how we look and smell I am for it.

I think that Sandy and I will do the lake loop on the 27th. We may require a head start.

Cath and I would be happy to do the burger/beer thing at our house ( 20 Edgemont Rd, 1/4 mile from the finish ) which would eliminate the smell factor.
 
"there is nothing half so much worth doing as simply messing about on bikes (sic)" Grahame Greene from Wind In The Willows

That sounds good to me!

Ryan

sounds good to me too. Maybe we should park there and use that location for the start/finish. Then we won't have to drive to eat.

We can get there early and show everyone where to park up top. Looks like fun. It will be a good finish as it ends on a fast uphill sprint.


On a KOM point........we talked about where is the top of cardiac hill. Well not too far off the road at just about the top on the right is the end of an old stonewall, It sits about 4 feet high, with neatly stacked rocks, that is your top. There are a couple more further up with a chain across them, but that is not your top, it is the one previous. Top 6 there get points.


I am thinking 6pm start to give time for everyone to get there, but 5:30 is fine too. Tim and Jason come from furthest away, so their input would help picking a time.

Oh and post your damn prologue times ; ) I can't play scenarios out in my head without knowing where I stand.

PJ

Ah the suspense is killing you isn't it PJ :lol:

6pm works best for me

6pm would actually work better for me as well.

Ryan

PJ--
I am anxiously waiting your prediction.... I am playing out the different scenarios in my head over and over I need some guidance

:?: :?: :?:

The pack will stay together all the way to Dewey hill, then all hell will break loose. Someone will go off the front hard forcing the action. Climbers will react and we will split up into 4 groups. Top group will stay away until the finish, while chase group 1 and 2 will try keep it close. Chase group 3 will keep fighting to hang near chase group 2.


Chase group 1 may lose a guy on the climb before 89 and 103A making chase group 2 pretty solid, and chase group 1 a little weaker.

The lead group will not be caught, but chase group 1 and 2 will merge into another group at the top of cardiac hill with new blood. This new chase group will do well and finish less than 2 minutes behind the leaders, while a few straggler groups will come in close behind. Chase group 3 will be just a few minutes behind them.


Winning group- 1:01 group splits up on rollers near end
Chase 1- 1:03 (2-3 guys)
Chase 2- 1:04 (2-3 guys)
Chase 3- 1:06
Chase 4- 1:08 (splits in groups)
Chase 5- 1:11


What group will you be in?

Hoping to survive chase group 2.

- Ken
 
"If you brake, you don't win." Racer Mario Cipollini

I'll be happy just to finish with a hopefully respectable time. I make no predictions other than Julie's group will surprise themselves by finishing strong.

Ryan

we need some chatter.


Burgers at the end of the ride- hmmmm. advantage Lovely, Ippedico

Beer at the end of the ride- hmmmm. advantage O'neill, O'brien

Tofu at the end of the ride- advantage Trotter, Gurney.

Chocolate- Collins

Scotch- Collins, Feeney, Oneill

KOM points- advantage Currier, Burbridge

Swim at the end of the ride- advantage Waterman

Dancing at the end of the ride- advantage Wiley ( I don't know, just want to see you dance)

a run up the mountain at the end- advantage Sharp

Cash payout for the winner- advantage Richer

Joan and Al ( who we last heard of on this site as illegally helping Sandy at Job's creek --- in the pedals start and a pace bike --- I think that a 1' 58" penalty is in order ) I digress...they are riding. Joan is bringing some "healthy" food so watch out for that.

Catherine and Rosie are also mounting up. The women have arrived.

And, at the bottom of this screen it is written "oldest first". I took that as an omen, not that the oldest finishes first but that he/I should start first. Well in advance so as not to miss any beer at the finish.
 
"there is nothing half so much worth doing as simply messing about on bikes (sic)" Grahame Greene from Wind In The Willows

A dance is the best you could come up with. I won't dance for my wife, there is no way I am dancing at the end of a ride, atleast not without the aid of some spirits.

-- Ken
 
"If you brake, you don't win." Racer Mario Cipollini

Complicated programming dilemma to solve after the start but before you mount your bike... advantage Wiley.

Mike, it was agreed way back that one could have assistance to steady the bike on a standing start for the time trial, also Al didn't help draft Sandy, he just happened to be on the same road at the same time and kept his distance, no advantage there. I guess you will just have to ride faster. By the way I swear I saw a series of townlines on Jobs Creek that day, perhaps that's what did it. We will find out today if it was simply an anomaly or the real deal.

Ryan